Thanks for posting these reports guys! You'll obviously keep trying.
What the heck are those fish eating? Are there any bugs in the air?
It seems like there must be mayflies around because of the success
you've had with the copper john. Maybe smaller and buggier would work
on the bigger fish, i.e. size 18 PT with no bead and no flash. They
could be real selective to drift and maybe smaller tippet is the ticket
too. Of course I have no idea and you guys have probably already tried
those things and many many more. It's fun to be an armchair
quarterback though. When I get home after a humiliating trip I can
always think of things I should have tried but didn't. Is flourocarbon
legal in NZ? (G) bh