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Old March 23rd, 2006, 04:49 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing
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"Rodney Long" wrote in message
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Harold wrote:



WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Common Carp originated in CENTRAL ASIA (That's between Asia and Europe)
and spread East to Asia and West to Europe.



It spread through man, placing it in the waters




"Central Asia is the original home of the carp. They spread eastward to
China and Japan,
and westward into Europe by way of Greece and Rome."


By "man" introducing it

"Carp originated in China and spread throughout Asia and Europe as an
ornamental and aquaculture species."


http://www.affa.gov.au/content/outpu...EC2BF6E44EB30B


Looks like we finally agree on one thing. Yes, we humans are the ones who
introduced this fish
all over the world. They reproduce in mass numbers, eat just about anything
on the bottom, can live
in muddy oxygen poor waters, and can provide lots of cheap protein.
But obviously, an over abundance of them is a serious threat to both native
species
and habitat. In truth rather than hating the carp we ought to be hating the
idiot who brought them
over in the first place.
We live in a world where lunatics (like PETA) are trying to elimate fishing
alltogether, calling
those of us who fish "killers".
Advocating the killing of every carp you catch like it's some sort of a
crusade simply provides fuel
for these lunatics. The state DNRs have a responsibility to manage the
populations and distributions.
If they deem it necessary to kill everything in a body of water to contain
any given species then so be it.
As a hunter I wouldn't even think of shooting anything that I wasn't going
to eat. As a fisherman, I don't
believe killing fish I catch, especially mutilating them to vent my anger in
some errant direction does much
to help anyone. If States ran programs where you could bring in your carp
catch to any fishing license vendor
and the state paid a reward, per pound, per fish, whatever, this would help
immesely.

The common carp is in fact an edible food fish and we Americans have a very
serious problem with
prejudice towards certain species. Until 15 years ago we weren't even eating
monkfish, simply tossing them
away as a "trash fish" not knowing that it's a prized food fish in Europe.
Eventually the same thing will happen
to the Sea Robin.The prejudice we have towards the common carp is frankly,
absurd.
As responsible fishermen who care about our native species and habitants we
should be encouraging the use
of carp as a resouce. This, more than anything else can reduce their numbers
to the point of decimation.
Declaring that "Carp tastes like crap" and has no value at all, when this
fish is used and sold as food throughout
the world simply displays our degree of naivitee and ignorance.

Even with scientific data supporting controlling their population, the carp
itself is not as "alien" as you may think.
Take a good look at the bigmouth and smallmouth buffaloes. Just put two
barbels on their mouths. The
North American continent has never been "free" of the carp family as these
native fish, and suckers
and numerous minnows prove.

So yes, we humans spread this fish all over the world. And where they have
become a nuisance, we humans need
to find ways to eliminate them or reduce their numbers....without helping
the Peta retards.
But that's got nothing to do with hating the fish or denying their value as
a food resource.
And it's also got nothing to do with denying their value as a sport fish,
since England and most of Europe considers
them a sport fish and any one of us who has hooked one, either intentionally
or not can attest.