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Old May 5th, 2006, 05:05 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default Well, I ended up with the rod...


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On Thu, 4 May 2006 20:20:42 -0400, "Mr. Opus McDopus"
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Since I couldn't convince anyone else to become interested in that Orvis Rod
I posted about a week or so ago, I am now the proud owner. I had called
Orvis about the rod--I think I mention that before--and they said that it
was made 8/1/1957. For some reason, the guy who's father-in-law died called
me over to his shop this morn to tell me that he wanted me to have the rod.
I hadn't inspected the shipping tube that accompanied the rod before this
afternoon.

Anyway, on the way home I noticed that the shipping tube (cardboard) had a
UPS shipping label? Funny I thought to myself. I didn't know USP ran way
back in 1957? I looked the tube over more carefully, and discovered a
shipping date--8/10/1970? Why on Earth would Orvis hold a rod 13 years and
then decide to sell it, I thought? I decide something was fishy in Boone
and that I needed to give Orvis another call. However, first I needed to
stop by my 77 year old uncle's place and show him my latest acquisition. I
was tellin' him the long drawn out story, as he pulled the rod from it's
sock. But section, mid-section, tip-section and another tip-section? Wait
a minute, this is a single tip rod! It says so right on the rod tube and
cap? Another thing, this tip is shorter, darker, and broken mid-way up with
a band of old maskin' tape around it?

I inspected the broken tip. It was worn, soiled, and had the same SN as the
good tip. Mystery solved, I think? Apparently, this rod had been sent back
to Orvis for repair and the entire rod was refinished, as the thread wraps
are much wider on the new sections (from butt to tip-top). Everything about
this rod looks new, except for the bad tip section, with the exact same
serial number.

Has anyone every seen this before. I mean everything is new, including the
grip and reel seat? Why would they redo the rod entirely, and send the
broken tip back with it? I haven't called Orvis again, yet, but I intend
to, as they told me that their record did not show that the rod had ever
been returned for repair, since 1957?

I feel quite certain that the rework is Orvis's, as everything looks exactly
like all the other Orvis rods that I have.

Any help would be appreciated.

Op

I have no idea what Orvis charged for replacing a tip section or
refinishing a rod circa 1970, but I suspect that just the refinish would
have been considerably less than a new 2nd tip and refinish. As such, I
can envision such as this scenario: The guy rarely fished it anymore,
maybe because from the early sixties to the early seventies were the
heyday of all sorts of new fiberglass "super rods," (not to be confused
with Wonderods) and 'boo was falling out of favor with many folks, maybe
because he didn't FF anymore, whatever. But this rod was fairly nice or
sentimental or whatever and had gotten some heavy use in the prior 13
years, getting a broken tip along the way. The guy didn't want to spend
what it would take to replace the tip, but the cost of the refinish was
worth it to him, so off it went. As there was really not any "repair"
per se done, a record wasn't kept (this assumes that Orvis was
particular about record-keeping at that time). Since it was what
normally would be a two-tip model, it had a label attached indicating
that this particular rod only had the single tip, so as to avoid someone
conducting what would have been a fruitless search thinking the 2nd tip
was floating around misplaced in the shop.

Also, someone could have just stuck it in the wrong rod tube or shipping
tube. Are you sure everything is "right" as far as what goes with what
with regards to the tubes?

TC,
R



The replacement tip cost me $65. Believe it or not, I bought the entire
Battenkill outfit in 1974 for $212. That included the two tip rod, CFO
III reel with spare spool, and floating and sinking line. Thirty odd
years later that'll buy you a couple of tanks of gas and a carton of
smokes.