Alaskan420 wrote:


Where did you read me claim or imply that the war in Iraq was worth it? In
fact, just the opposite is true. I believe that by our focusing on Iraq we
are seriously wasting resources and limited political clout which could be
used much more effectively in the "war on terrorism".

I agree that the moment we found the truth behind the lie in Iraq concerning
our reason for being there we should have withdrawn. But we didn't. As for
the war being all about oil....James A. Paul, executive director of the
Global Policy Forum makes a compelling case for oil being a major factor but
even he cautions that it is a serious oversimplification to think that was
the only motivation.

But just to play devil's advocate for a moment, (THIS IS NOT MY OPINION),
why would going to war for a resource so vital to our society and our daily
lives be so wrong. Historically much larger wars have been fought for lesser
reasons. Yes, we should be doing more to reduce our oil dependence but
that's not part of this discussion.

Also, I would certainly consider the slaughter of up to 180,000 Kurds a
"killing field". But again, nowhere in my posts did you read me using the
fact that Iraq had serious internal troubles as a justification for the loss
of a single American life. I made that statement to refute rw's contention
that we created the killing field in Iraq.

What I am asserting is that Islamic terrorism has been around a very long
time. That it has nothing to do with GWB or whoever may be president and in
reality has very little to do with America. Islamic terrorism is based on an
ideology that cannot tolerate any who do not believe as they do. Fundamental
Islamic leaders have stated, (well documented), that their goal is the death
of all infidels. It is their jihad. Simple and succinct. How do you
negotiate a meaningful peace with a position that only demands your death?
Do we divide the island? "A" team over there, "B" team over here?

To claim, as many of the posters here do, that we are the cause of all of
this and have brought it on ourselves is extremely short sighted and
dangerous. At some point a real discussion must take place without the
America bashing that liberals seem so fond of. Conservatives aren't right
either. If a people want to be free they should step up to the plate and
demand their own freedom. We have no right or mandate to democratize the
globe. On some levels that is as preposterous as the Islamic goal, (without
the infidels must die part).

Soap boxes don't really make you taller, you know......they just make
you think you look that way.

Wolfgang
the boy honestly appears to believe he can pull it off.