RichZ wrote:
That little curlycue isn't really line twist. It's the same thing you
get if you pull a length of mono between your thumbnail and your index
finger.

oh yea, poor choice of words now that mention it.

I pull my palomar knot tight in 3 stages to avoid it. Pull both lines
until the knot it down to about a 1/4" loop or less. Then pull the main
line to "tight, but not stressed tight", wet it again, and then pull the
tag end to lock it up. That way, the curlycue will be in the tag end,
not the main line.

been trying to sneak up on the knot as well but with not much success.
I'll use those suggestions and keep at it. I read you guys over at
ctfishermen and know I have to learn the DS to ever expand my results on
the Champlain.

And yes, I mean a #2 hook. A #1 on bigger baits, and sometimes as tiny
as a #4 on really tiny baits, like a 3" Lake Police Dart or 2.5" Fin-S fish.

thanks