I don't mean to start the whole Walmart sucks thing again (but they do
:-), but here goes. I bought a Scientific Anglers rod from them a few
years ago, before I quit going there. I am a very novice fly caster
and
I
can tell you those low end rods from Walmart are the worst rod of any
kind
I have ever used. There are plenty of economy rods out there that
would
be
better worth your money. Again, St. Croix has some nice casting rods
and
combos in the price range Michael is looking for. Orvis too.

Jeremy Moe

I agree wholeheartedly.
Wal-Mart sucks!
For the most part they sell low end sh**
I also agree that there are many better economy rods available.

LLBean would also be a good place to search.
Some of their rods were or are made by Thomas & Thomas and are decent
and
relatively inexpensive.

Fred

Um, doesn't Walmart carry some Orvis stuff?



Some Walmarts might carry more, but the only Orvis products Walmart sells
here are Green Mountain fly lines and leaders. Bottom end lines from
Orvis.
No other Orvis products. They sell mostly very low end Scientific Angler
gear. AKA: junk.

Jeremy Moe

Oh, goody...a new face who fancies him(?)self a DYGS...and for Tim and
the guide - just sub "gear" for "beer"...bubba, you are in about as
wrong a place as you can get if you wanna set yourself up as a real
high-stepping gear connoisseur...and you are doing it with about as
wrong a person as you could pick, too...

There isn't a fly rod at any Walmart, anywhere, that a decent FFer
_couldn't_ use. If that FFer _wouldn't_ use it, that says more about
them than Walmart or the gear in question. Heck, in the hands of many,
even a broken rod in the returned items bin could produce results. And
if a FFer's budget made Walmart (or other purveyors of what you call
"junk") the supplier of choice, there's no shame in that.

You're not by any chance from Ketchum, Jr. or the proud owner of, IIRC,
"at least one of every rod Orvis ever made," are you?

R


R,

Let me clarify...1st, I don't know you and didn't pick a fight with you, I
simply posted a recomendation to try to help the guy out. 2d, I am not a
dumbass, a yuppie, and least of all, I am not a gear snob. If you would read
further down in later posts, you would read that I use some of the cheapest
gear available (compared to what most others use). 3rd, I am not trying to
set myself up as "a real high-stepping gear connoisseur", just the opposite.
I have not had the privelege of owning or using anything other than the
lower end equipment my wife allows me to buy. 4th, the Walmart references in
question were pertaining to the Walmart here in my town. Your Walmart may
(and probably is) different. My first fly rod was a SA bought at my local
Walmart, and with noone and nowhere near to learn the art of fly fishing
from, it was a miserable rod to teach myself on. Simple lack of experience
and a mentor kept me from enjoying that rod. 5th, no you don't recall
correctly, I have never said I was the owner of "at least one of every rod
Orvis ever made." Again, just the opposite, I have only owned one Orvis, and
I much prefer my (much cheaper) St. Croix over the Orvis.


Jeremy Moe
(just trying to understand why some folks just want to try to start ****
with people they don't know)