On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 11:51:11 +0800, "riverman" wrote:


"Mr. Opus McDopus" wrote in message
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"jeffc" wrote in message
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Huh? Doesn't sound like you read my post. In any case, granted I was
thinking in my lifetime. And there is really no escaping the fact that
that label of morality police goes to Republicans, not Democrats. With
respect to hypocrisy, I was trying to make a point about morality
policing, not hypocrisy in general.

I think that Steve was trying to point out the neither the Dems nor the
Repubs are worthy of our votes. I could be wrong about Steve's post, but
that's the way I read it.



In any case, thats a horrible point of view, as it ensures the status quo.

And historically, have Americans ever felt so dispondent about the policial
process? If we lose complete faith (in reality, not just rhetorically) in
the our political system, this could be the start of the end of the 'great
experiment'.

Damn few really care about the political system, and IAC, even fewer
have any real knowledge of it. And here's the weird part: that's OK, it
really doesn't matter as far things generally lumbering along. If you
choose to think in terms of the "great experiment," the experiment isn't
this year or that, this session or that, this administration or that,
it's the system itself, one that allows, even encourages, some turmoil
and Machiavellian machinations, some chicanery and criminality, and some
ball-busting and back-stabbing, and surviving in spite of such. It's
politics, and there's a large measure of such stuff ingrained in the
nature of the beast. The "experiment" isn't in trying to rid the system
of it (it can't be done), it's surviving, even thriving, as country in
spite of it. If slavery, the, um, War of Northern Aggression," multiple
economic "crashes," the "Great Depression," 2 world wars, etc., etc.,
etc., didn't cave in the house, does anyone really think Iraq and
another pervert will? Please...

Anyone who thinks some, er, orgy of replacing "Republicans" with
"Democrats" will make things all sunshine and honey is just kidding
themselves. OTOH, anyone who thinks that doing so will be the beginning
of end is kidding themselves even more. And allowing either party to
convince you of either is just being to lazy to bother kidding yourself.
Get rid of the worst, and the system will lumber along, generally
successful because too many people, in the US and outside, have way too
much interest in it to let it truly die, and sheer momentum will the
take vast majority along for a generally-comfortable ride.

TC,
R



--riverman