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On 10 Oct 2006 06:15:19 -0700, "Charlie Choc"
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And another aside - always carry something besides the dog-leg,
pot-metal-socket-wrench-crap, or other pseudotool that comes with most
cars - either a good 4-way or a breaker bar and appropriately-sized
_real_ socket. If it is crossed, at least you can twist/snap off the
lug with real tools.

The best way I know to snap a crossthreaded lug, or urge one along, if you
don't have the appropriate cheater bar, is to put the 4-way on, then put the
car in gear, and roll forward (or backward, depending on the thread) slowly.
The 4-way (even an L-shaped lugnut tool) will catch against the ground, and
twist the lug.

Just be sure the frozen lug is the FIRST lug you remove....

--riverman