Fascinating conversation. Both "generations" and "crappie". Let me
recommend "Generations" by Strauss and Howe. It is the definitive read on
the cycles of the 4 recurring generational personalities in Anglo-American
history since the 1500s. I believe it will allow those of you who are
interested in this subject to better understand your generational
differences, the transition between generations, and the experiences which
shape out generational references to life. This book has changed the lives
of many people and it appears to me that some of you will find it worthwhile
as well. Good stuff for those long winter nights.

As for crappie, as of two days ago, I was still catching them on a fly rod
and chartreuse poppers. Also caught a 12" bass on the same popper. I could
not believe a bass would still take a top lure with the weather as cold as
it has been here in MI.

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Chris Rennert wrote:
This topic really did not stray far from being actually about fishing.
Fishing is something I love to do, and I am very passionate about it.
If someone younger, louder, and more obnoxious than I and kicks my butt
out on the water as well, heck, I'll take the beating and give him his
due.

I guess I don't get valuing obnoxiousness.

See this has always been my experience, that when an older
fisherman out fishes someone significantly younger it is because of
experience, and if a young fisherman walks the field of older fisherman
it is beginners luck, or there was something to it. I think that is
total crap, can't the older fisherman just be better than the others,
and vice versa?

Not sure what to say here without offending.

That is why I got so defensive about Ike, when the
young spoiled brat comment came out, and then the old school anglers
taking their morals with them to the grave, etc. I took it personally,
was it aimed at me in particular, most definitely not. so......I don't
know.

Of course I didn't say anything about him being spoiled or a brat. I
actually found him very intertaining and refreshing until he did what
he did at the bassmasters. Throughout history people have had defining
moments that seem to capture their true character and they can never
get away from it. Clinton was a smart man and the country had good
economic times under him, but he had a defining moment that showed his
true character.

There must be a hundred or more sports figures that have had a slip of
the tongue and it ruined their career.

Pressure caused Ike to react the way he did, but I believe it was his
core character that he displayed in a pressure packed moment. Like I
said, breaking the running light was just a little temper tantrum.
Throwing back a dead fish was unethical and basically cheating.
Pressure is sort of like drinking... when you get enough in you, what
is really inside will come out.

I do understand where you are coming from though Chris. Were you are
now, I once was also.

Cheers

Jim