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Old November 14th, 2006, 02:44 PM posted to alt.fishing,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animals,rec.outdoors.fishing
Geoff
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Default Tuna salad anyone? Death of a Tuna and Death of a Whale

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 14:33:51 -0000, "pearl"
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"Rodney Long" wrote in message ...
David H. Lipman wrote:
From: "pearl"

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Total bullsh!t. Denying the fact that hominids are omnivorous.

It was the extraction of bone marrow that helped early hominids evolve.

I don't care if anyone is vegetarian or vegan. It do care when
extremists want everyone to
follow their POV. This is the same as religious extremism.



You can't reason with a vegetarian, they have lost the protein in their
diet, that allows their brains to function properly.


Learning-resistant, I see. I won't repeat what I've already posted.

Prime example, they complain about people killing animals, yet they can
no longer, see animals killing animals, animals even torturing other
animals, just watch a house cat play with a mouse, or killer whales
tossing "injured" baby seals in the air for hours, before finally eating
them. Animals kill more animals, than humans do. It's the way nature
works,


Funny, I just wrote this on another thread:


LOL.


"Geoff" wrote in message ...

OK we appreciate mans inhumanity to man has nothing to do with God.
What about the cruelty of nature. Animals, wildlife eating each other
alive etc?

Any explanations in the Bible?

How can we accept that nature is just a nothing in itself?


Why is nature so cruel?

Keen to hear your views. TIA.


I'll take a stab at it.

According to Genesis, all creatures were created vegetarian,
and in Isaiah we read that the lion will lay next to the lamb,
etc.

Is the caterpiller anaesthetized? That is certainly possible.
Does an animal that is terrified (or in shock?) in the face
of imminent death, feel the extent or actual pain of usually
very swift and effective deadly attacks by true predators?

What would you do as Creator, if you have a planet with
diverse species that benefited from predation - for the prey,
the predators, and ecosystem as a whole -- that, or a planet
where everything becomes overrun? Can it work differently?

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and we humans are part of nature.


We humans are not predators.

I hunt, and I fish, I can't stand to see a creature suffer needlessly,


As you don't NEED to eat meat - your *every* act of violence
against an animal *IS* needless, unless a life-or-death situation.

2 deer from starving to death, slowly, during the winter, we must control
their numbers, or starvation , and disease will make them suffer
horribly. There is documented evidence of this, when Pennsylvania
banned deer hunting for ten years, they lost tens of thousands of deer
to starvation and disease each year, tell me these deer did not suffer,
needlessly !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WHAT happened to their natural predators, hmmm? Killed to
protect your 'livestock' no doubt. .. then use deer's burgeoning
population to justify killing them! ..You know not what you do..