On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:19:50 -0000, "pearl" wrote:

"Rodney Long" wrote in message ...
Geoff wrote:
When a fish is caught...
To try to defend themselves from critcism, anglers often say that most
fish caught are put back in the water rather than being killed. This
overlooks the fact that the process of catching and removing a fish
from the water causes a great deal of suffering.

Hooking.
The fish is hooked through its lips which like the rest of its body
contain lots of nerve endings, meaning that it feels pain when hooked.


TOTAL BULL ****, there is no indication of ANY pain, the fish responds
by pulling against the hook,, if there was pain, it would not do this!
If I put a hook in "your" mouth, or any mammal's mouth (which can feel
pain) it would not increase the pressure on that hook, as it would
increase the pain. A fish responds differently to a hook than any animal
that can feel pain, This is total BULL **** "PETA" propaganda

You know all about BULL****, don't ya. When you accidentally impale
your finger on a hook, do you leave it in because it hurts to extract it, eh?
The fish is struggling to extricate itself from the source of the pain, but
you've sneakily put a barb on it which makes it difficult, and not leaving
the animal alone in it's now miserable state, you keep on reeling it towards
you -- so the fish is also trying to get away from whatever's attached to
the other end of the noxious device. Pain or life/freedom.. what choice?

'That Fish You Caught Was in Pain

Research challenges the myth among anglers that fish can't feel pain
from barbed hooks.

By Victoria Braithwaite
VICTORIA BRAITHWAITE, a behavioral biologist at Edinburgh
University, is on sabbatical at the Institute for Advanced Study in Berlin.

October 8, 2006
.. . .

Moreover, we actually have as much evidence that fish can suffer as we do
that chickens can. I think, therefore, that we should adopt a precautionary
ethical approach and assume that in the absence of evidence to the contrary,
fish suffer.

...'
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedi...,5224931.story

Suffering is easy. Fish can see. They can hear. They can smell. They can
taste. The idea that they have those four senses but can't feel is too stupid
for me. The fact that they behave exactly like they can feel, combined with
the fact that we have no reason to believe they can't, makes it even more
stupid. The extent to which they have feeling in their *lips* almost certainly
varies.