"rb608" wrote in message
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Opus wrote:
When did we ever have such a thing. I mean, we've been over-throwing
democratically elected governments since after the Second World War, and
it
hasn't been the exclusive real of the Republicans.

I don't disagree with your assessment of that facet of our
not-so-covert foreign policy; but we have in the past been so much more
than a mere military bully on the world stage.

No, we were military bullies covertly. WE just didn't recognize the fact
and the rest of the so-called democratic developed nations were only too
happy for us to spend billions to protect them from the evil commies. All
of those who lost loved one's, in so many *poor* nations, never saw us as
the moral standard. Certainly not in Latin America, Southeast Asia, the
Philippines, the Middle East... The only people who may have held us up as
the moral champions of the world were those around the world who had a
monetary interest at stake.

I'm just as upset as you are about the baffoon and chief and his minons, but
it certainly won't be the Dems who bring us back to some fantasy moral
equilibrium, as their fingerprints are all over our nasty post WWII history.


On balance, we have
done a lot of good for a lot of people outside our borders.

"USA's aid, in terms of percentage of their GNP has almost always been lower
than any other industrialized nation in the world, though paradoxically
since 2000, their dollar amount has been the highest. (Only since 2004 have
they move up from last place, by one.)"

"The US gives 13c/day/person in government aid..American's private
giving-another 5c/day-is high by international standards but does not close
the gap with most other rich countries. Norway gives $1.02/day in public aid
and 24c/day in private aid" per person."

http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRel...onGNIperce nt

I'm not so
naive as to think much or any of that was purely altruistic; but in
terms of how the rest of the world viewed our actions and motives; I
believe we were, prior to this administration's war, generally seen as
a positive actor more often than not.

I guess it's a matter of who's doing the viewing?

Op

Joe F.