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**[email protected]** · March 21st, 2007, 04:26 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly

On 19 Mar 2007 19:58:58 -0700, wrote:

A whole bunch of **** showing he doesn't know what the hell he is
talking about...

On Mar 20, 3:31 am, "Wayne Knight" wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com...

There are only very very few people who will be able to cast a full
#3DT line. Indeed, the vast majority will never even get close to 65
feet. But there are plenty who can quite easily cast thirty feet of
#10 line on a #3 weight rod quite a long way.

There's your problem with generalizations, many three weights don't have the
taper to not get overpowered by 30' of #10 line, but without resorting to
name calling I would have to agree trying to cast 90' of 3wt is different
than trying to cast 30' of 10wt, regardless of the rod.

Furthermore, there is NOBODY who can cast a weighted #6 woolly bugger
60 feet, or even close to it, using a #3 weight line and a #3 weight
rod.

"NOBODY?" Really? And you know this how?

I'm not a particularly accomplished caster and I would take that bet.
Regardless I know several who could make that cast.

Between you and Tom, I'd trust Tom's claim that he knew people who could
cast 6 miles with a broken, rotten broomstick and sewing thread over
your claim that you knew people who had once heard the term "fly rod"...

This involves double hauling the thirty foot head ( or however long
the matched piece happens to be), and shooting the backing. It is not
even particularly difficult.

The weight is the same, merely the length of the weight has changed.
This has no affect at all on the rod.

Disagree again, The weight of the line is but one factor. The length of the
aerolized line is but one component of the process, that's why people who
try to back cast with 30' of WF line often loose it because the
combination of rod load, line speed, and taper get all shot to hell when the
fatter "head" portion is dependent upon the skinnier running line to support
the flight path. There were specific rods made to aerolize line but they
tend to be softer action than the medium fast to fast action rods in vogue
on this side of the pond.

The taper and other factors are irrelevant. If the rod can cast 200
grains, then it can cast 200 grains of anything. The length of that
weight is also quite irrelevant (within certain limits and dependent
on technique) whether it is a one inch piece of lead, or a thirty foot
piece of line.

A thirty foot piece of line weighing 200 grains can carry a very much
heavier fly that a 60 foot piece of line weighing 200 grains.

Um...are you actually reading what you are writing, Herr Dokter
Schitzenpacker?

I know a couple of the worlds best casters. Not one of them

Unless you intend that the group of "the worlds best casters" is the
entire group of people who have ever been a caster, past or present, you
could have no idea if you knew this couple or not; you might know, at
least in the carnal sense, the winner of last year's Hamburg Homo
Invitational Casting Tournament or the Nazi Drag Queen Fly Throw-off.

But even if someone could somehow determine that they actually knew "a
couple of the worlds best casters," it would be "neither of them," not
"Not one of them," and the importance of that distinction is, again,
based on the number in the overall group consisting of those you don't
_claim_ to know...IAC, your knowing any of them would be not relevant to
the gibberish you've written...

can cast a
weighted woolly bugger sixty feet using a #3 weight line, and
regardless of the rod.

Then yer buddies ain't, in objective terms, all that great of pack of
casters...you limpwristers better stick to sashaying around and boring
'em at the local drag queen events...

With regard to carrying heavy flies the weight of the fly-line in use
is the only relevant factor.

Well, whaddayaknow...

Unless

THERE ARE NO OTHER POSSIBILITIES!! Haven't you heard? Mike Connor has
spoken on the subject, and he and two - that's right, _TWO_ of his
fly-tossing, ice-water swimming bunghole buds have...ACHTUNG
muthaflockers...spoken: the weight of the fly-line in use is the ONLY
relevant factor!!!

In the end (pardon the pun), you're a ****in' dip****...now go drag yer
ass back under the trainstation porch...when you learn a little
something about casting, come on back and bore me some more, ya hear...

Dickie