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**[email protected]** · March 23rd, 2007, 02:44 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly

On 23 Mar 2007 06:14:27 -0700, wrote:

On Mar 23, 1:46 pm, Conan The Librarian wrote:

So, my point in this whole rant? Nothing, really. Just that a
newsgroup is what you (the general "you") make of it. If you want ff
content, post some. If you don't want arguments and ****ing matches,
don't participate in them. But don't moan and whine about the nature of
the group if that's your sole contribution to it.

Chuck Vance (move along ... nothing to see here)

This has often been stated, but it is simply not true. It is more or
less impossible for anybody to post here without being abused or
insulted.Always by the same people. Most people quite rightly see
absolutely no point in allowing themselves to be treated in such a
fashion, most especially as regardless of what outrages are
perpetrated, there is absolutely nothing they can do about it.

This is the main reason most of the old guard have left, they were
simply sick of the abuse. Newbies who wander in here, and there used
to be a large number, mainly do so because they want to hear something
about fly-fishing, As soon as they see that there is practically no
fly-fishing, just contentious bull****, and mainly off-topic, they
leave and go elsewhere. This is quite apart from those who are
insulted or abused on their first post or two. I have no doubt that
the vast majority never even post at all, they take a look, and leave.

Extreme bad manners, vituperation, and general ignorance are the order
of the day on this group, and that can not be changed by a few
sensible people, or even more than a few. It can only be changed if
those responsible could somehow be forced into complying with normal
manners and decency, but they can not. They simply continue to ruin
this group with impunity.

Fortenberry and Dean have actually stated they only come here to waste
time and entertain themselves by insulting and abusing others. Why
should any sensible person put up with that?

Pure bull****. I've never stated any such thing. I'll do something I
rarely do: "defend" myself. Just recently, as an example, the very same
person who made a to-do about who was in his killfile (again) responded
favorably and in total agreement to what I had written (on-topic) that
he had misread as being from another reply and writer. And I'd offer
that my busting your chops IS on-topic because fair chunk of what you
post is simply incorrect, and another chunk is inapplicable to anything
remotely related to actual fishing.

The analogy to a bar is also completely wrong. In a bar, those two
would not survive for five minutes before being given the bum´s
rush.

I've been raising hell in bars for longer than you've been flyfishing,
(and IIRC, I've been flyfishing longer than you, too) and believe me or
don't, you and any two of your friends wouldn't make enough of a man to
make me spill a fresh drink. I won't speak for the other wags around
here because I cannot.

They come here specifically to misbehave, because they would not
be allowed to do so anywhere else, those few remaining have become
inured to this, and as long as they themselves are not targeted they
either ignore it, or even join in with the slagging when the fancy
takes them.

And once again, you demonstrate just how wrong you are...the few here
that know me will tell you I'll say to anyone's face exactly what I'd
say here, good, bad, or otherwise, and do so with the same general sense
of humor. And if the receiver of it took exception, I'd be perfectly
willing to let them do what they thought they needed to do, be that
respond back or start swinging. And just like here, they'd get a
response pretty closely matching what they gave. The only advice I'd
give is that they might not wish to let their mouth write checks their
ass couldn't cover.

This group is practically dead as a result.

Then why are you here, you pompous, full-of-**** windbag?

Dickie

MC