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Old March 30th, 2007, 04:47 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default TR: Rangitikei River in New Zealand (long)

On 29 Mar 2007 17:42:44 -0700, "David F"
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On Mar 27, 11:18 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 01:15:47 GMT, "rb608"



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"Peter A. Collin" wrote in message
.. .
Your story reminds me of a trip I made to Quebec several years ago for
trophy brook trout. I was using streamers with large hooks, and kept
losing fish like you - the hook just kept pulling out. It was
exasperating and I never figured out what I was doing wrong.


Maybe pertinent, maybe not; but I've found a similar thing happening when
fishing the salmon run in Altmar. Every once in a while, I'd hook into one
of the big ones, only to have it come loose for no apparent reason. I
finally figured out what was happening. The ones I lost were coming loose
because they were foul hooked to begin with. I'd occasionally get a large
scale back on the hook, under the same circumstances as when getting
nothing. It became clear that I'd break off on mouth hookups; but the foul
hooks were just coming loose.


Joe F.


Riverman the Ripper, meet Joe the Jerker...

TC, and HTH,
R


I'm baffled by this whole question. I've been pondering what I
do......seems like I just raise the rod and keep tension. I do wonder
if my hooks were sharp when I miss a fish but usually a pull out just
****es me off and I figure it's bad luck. From salt water fishing, I
can tell you about setting or not with a hook. If you don't set a
hook, then when the line tension lets up, the fish spits and it's
gone. You keep and fight the fish until a loss of tension. That's
nothing like losing a big trout. I had four straight pull outs on
takes from large browns on the Mataura one afternoon this year and my
answer was a temper tantrum.


If fishing causes you "temper tantrums," SOMETHING ain't right. That
said, if you have sal****er experience, think about how the hook is set
with tarpon versus, say, specks or redfish.

First and foremost when fishing for larger quarry with hard mouths,
sharpen your hooks. It's not a bad idea with _all_ hooks, but it is
especially important with such quarry. Then think about what you are
doing when you try to set the hook with something as flexible as a
flyrod (and fly line) versus a boat rod (with mono). Think about tarpon
- you set with the line hand after the run has begun, not with the rod
(really, the rod tip..hint, hint) the instant the fly is hit. With such
hard-mouth running quarry, make the fish a "partner" in setting the
hook.

Finally, accept an occasional missed solid hookup as just another part
of fishing...and not catching.

HTH,
R