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Old April 18th, 2007, 12:23 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Ken Fortenberry
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asadi wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry"
Well, if you believe in harvesting organs from executed prisoners
you needn't hurt your arm patting yourself on the back for having
"high morals".


NO, I do not believe in harvesting organs from executed criminals...I
believe in that criminal paying his debt. His fine and time were for the
crime right? Where in that has he paid his debt?


I consider time spent behind bars as adequate payment for
any debt to society and don't require an additional pound
of flesh. I'm all for creative sentencing as in your example
of sentencing a litterbug to pick up trash but I'm opposed
to capital punishment. Here in Illinois we've released as
many prisoners from death row after DNA proved them innocent
as we've executed. There's something tragically wrong with
the system.

He took and life and he should save a live to repay the debt....kinda like
old contrare in 'Little Big Man.' If the crime was especially heinous, I
would not harvest any organs from him, I would 'take' two organs..a lung and
appendix...and some of those who kill families and groups, well, the
criminal could go free after I took his heart and liver....

This is not a morbid, gruesome thought. ..but a long overdue consideration
of a victims rights and a criminal's responsibilities...


Your "victim's rights" sounds a whole lot like vengeance. As
for the "taking" of organs as retribution that certainly is
morbid and gruesome. If you force prisoners about to be executed
to consent to organ donation it is only a matter of time before
some poor innocent is railroaded into the death chamber to provide
an organ for the rich and powerful. It will happen, it's inevitable.

You know, at thirty years old, I could have cooked the books on a company,
stole millions and ruined the lives of hard working good hearted people,
forcing them into to poverty and a wall mart greeters coat until they die,
done ten years at a white collar prison with cable TV and a tennis court,
been out for fifteen years and be a wealthy man...would I have paid my debt?


Yes, you'd have paid your debt to society. Would it be just ?
I don't know, our legal system ain't never had much of anything
to do with justice.

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Ken Fortenberry