I have used the 3/0 zoom horny toad hooks, I would definetly suggest a screw
lock hitchhiker. It eliminates the ripped baits, sliding baits etc. frogs
always stay right side up( a big problem with the zoom) I won't rig a frog
without it, I will also start using them on flukes as well.

I am working on a deal with a manufacturer to get those hooks in bulk.
samples will be here this week. I'll see how they are.

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"Dave Vito" wrote in message
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The Gamakatsu EWG hooks work better in the 4/0. I do see what you are
saying, the owner came through the bait so far forward that the hook point
went past the slot, where the Gamakatsu point was just at the beginning
of the slot.

With the Horney toads, we used the 4/0 texposer hooks. These may work well
for our frogs too, but you still want to use some sort of pegging system.
I'll have more hook info on the frogs after the weekend. I think its Gammy
who puts out the new Z-Lock tube hooks. They have an extra bend where the
bait holds to the hook. it's a widegap hook as well. I may try them and
will get back to you.

Dave V



"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
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On May 14, 4:04 pm, "Dave Vito" wrote:
Bob, The 3/0 from Owner was much too small. I would definately go with a
4/0
regardless of manufacturer.


A lot of the Owner hooks are shorter front to back than other brands
of the same size.

Compare an Owner Riggin' Hook to a Gamakatsu EWG Super Line hook for
instance.