Thank you, I will actually have it for life now but as with everything, you
learn to live around it.

Saw some sticklebacks today in a very nice little stream in a country house
park at Lydiard, just outside Swindon. Probably not the best place to try
and catch them though.

Going after the bream on Monday after all, my grandsons last chance for a
weekday trip as he starts full time school on Tuesday. We did a deal, he
mentioned he wanted to go and I promised him a nice bream on his rod, if
only he knew the odds on my end of the deal.VBG

Many thanks for the advice. I did remember to keep the tip low but did it to
stop eye strain as there was a flat and dark piece of water I could use as
backdrop to the quiver.

I did not that letting the small taps pass led to more connections, I had
assumed line bits with the angle of the line.

I will try increasing the lengths of hook and feeder line next time I use
paternoster, the lengths you mention are about what I would normally use but
mainly I used it to present bread flake so needed a little extra length due
to the movement of the bread flake on first entry in the water ( semi
floating ) for moderate carp way back.

--
Gandalf


"The Midnight Rider" wrote in message
...
Sorry to hear about the illness, hope things get better with time. But
fishing is like riding a bike, you dont forget, you just get more wobbly
:{)


In my experience (for what its worth), it sounds like your going in the
right direction.
A running trace tends to outdo the paternoster, in the sense that as you
know bream
can be very timid at times, being able to play a while overcomes the fear
and once
feeling safer they tend to start a slow run for the next meal. One thing
does jump
to mind however, on the paternoster the bites can be better read, in this
case a slightly
smaller hook, embedded rather than on the show, can often be crafty enough
to
fool the larger fish, also try extending to 6 and 10 as opposed to 4 and 8
to give
them a little more scope to start the run. Also, the bites can sometimes
be easier to connect if
you lower the angle of the rod slightly, the reaction time remains the
same but your movement to
connect ratio improves. (works for me because im lazy :{) )


Hope this helps, happy hunting sir.