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Old September 13th, 2007, 01:05 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Mike[_6_]
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Default Disaster and partial compensation

On 13 Sep, 13:42, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:


Fisheries management has evolved over the years and fisheries
managers have learned not to endanger natives with stockers,
Montana no longer stocks it's streams, but there's nothing
wrong with putting stockers into degraded habitat where natural
reproduction cannot occur. There is value in getting people
invested in the outdoors even if it's just to catch a stocker.

Most of your rant appears to be about aquaculture which is
something quite different than raising and releasing juvenile
fish from a fish hatchery.

--
Ken Fortenberry


Well Kenny, if you knew anything at all about the majority of
"angling" in the UK and many parts of Europe, which you obviously don
´t, then you would know that there are no juvenile fish raised from
hatcheries and released into various waters. The fish are force fed on
pellets obtained from grinding up marine protein, and released at
"catchable" size for "anglers" to catch. The "catchable" size varies
from water to water and what the "anglers" are prepared to pay. A 20
lb force fed rainbow is much more expensive than a 2 lb force fed
rainbow, as the two pounder cost about 8 lbs of marine protein to
raise, and the twenty pounder cost about 90...100 lbs. many of these
fish are deformed, as a result of being held in stew ponds ( force
feeding ponds with high densities of fish), many, indeed most, have
damaged fins and tails, or lack them altogether. All of these fish
have been heavily dosed with various hormones and chemicals, as they
would otherwise not survive at all, and various diseases are quite
common.

None of the habitat into which they are released is "degraded", in
point of fact the majority of such habitat is drinking water
reservoirs, or artificial ponds specifically created for the purpose,
and nearly all the fish are sterile rainbows, as releasing fertile
fish, which has occasionally occurred, would result in further
ecological disasters. Releasing sterile fish is generally illegal in
most places.

Natural habitat and fish stocks have indeed been destroyed in many
places, as a direct result of releasing stocked fish into running
waters which can not support an influx of large fish in that quantity,
and the species pyramid is usually completely wiped out by the larger
stock fish, which if not caught within a certain period of time, die
of starvation after having hoovered up what was available to them.

If you had the "savvy" of a common house brick, then you could quite
easily find all this out for yourself.

But because you are an arrogant, ignorant, **** of the very finest
kind, you prefer to ignore reality, and play your silly little games
here at other people´s expense.

Have a nice day dumbo.

MC