On Oct 26, 11:06 am, "Tim J."
wrote:
Joe, I feel your pain - I mean it could be either or both issues causing the
problem.

In my professional years, the chasm between engineers and architects
is well known and often a source of both humor and confrontation. So
now you have me, as left-brained, mathematical, and analytical as they
come, trying to teach engineering statics to architecture grad
students, one of whom has a background as a sculptor. I really don't
think I'm even speaking a language they understand. :-)

Joe F.