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Old November 2nd, 2007, 05:41 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Mike[_6_]
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On 2 Nov, 12:27, riverman wrote:
On Nov 2, 4:28 pm, riverman wrote:



On Nov 2, 10:40 am, Mike wrote:


On 2 Nov, 02:32, riverman wrote:


Dave, you're a gentleman and a scholar, and I thank you deeply. :-)


M




Just wait a while, the dishonourable old ****bag will make sure he
gets a pound of flesh for them!


Donīt drink his beer either!


MC


Well, I guess...


In any case, I can't open your link here at school, but I'd be very
interested in your opinion...for a newbie box that had limited
quantities (say, 20 flies); which would you compromise on: diversity
of sizes, diversity of styles, or diversity of back-ups?


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Heh heh. Now that I'm home and CAN open the attachment, I see that you
seem to be quite prescient. How clever of you.
:-)

I've never seen a Greenwell's Glory or a Snipe and Purple (although I
can attest to a lot of success with other soft hackles in Sweden), but
you've answered my question with your article. It seems that a narrow
diversity of flies, in a few sizes, with 2 or 3 of each, is the
recommendation. I think I agree.

Thanks, Mike.

--riverman


One may vary the actual flies to a considerable extent. More or less
any of Harryīs generic patterns would also suit. The main thing is to
stick to a strictly limited selection at first, and concentrate on
learning when to use what. Even an extremely limited selection of the
right flies will work in most places 70....90% of the time, and using
such,automatically removes a lot of variables and confusion, which is
important for beginners.

Presentation is usually of considerably greater importance than a
specific pattern.

Also, I try to start people off with generic wet flies/streamers/
nymphs. Dry fly fishing can be quite difficult for a beginner. Can
also be fun of course, but a draggging wet fly is much more likely to
catch a fish than a dragging dry fly.

With regard to sizes, for streamers, specifically woolly buggers,
which are probably THE most versatile streamer in existence, I would
go for #6 long shanks. For soft hackles, other wet flies and nymphs,
#16 and #14.

In time, and with experience, one will wish to increase oneīs
selection, also to suit specific venues. Tailwater fisheries WILL
require other flies for instance, and in small sizes.

I obviously donīt know the specifics of your class, but you might like
to have a try at making these with them;

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=sit...ta rt=10&sa=N

(Scroll down to the Singaporean leaders at the bottom of the
article). They are easy and quick to make, and work very well indeed.

I would also recommend the leader rings;

http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-on.../leaders..html

Some set-ups may also be of use to you;
http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-on...s/set_ups.html

Usually, beginners have the most problems with rigging and knots.

If I can be of any further assistance, please donīt hesitate to ask.
If you drop me a mail, with your address, I will also send you some of
the flies mentioned, for your class.

TL
MC