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Old November 14th, 2007, 05:19 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Mike[_6_]
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Default Newbie leader question

On 14 Nov, 17:11, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:43:57 -0500, Dave LaCourse



wrote:
On 14 Nov 2007 15:29:20 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:


The next time you store them on your reel, you'll find the same problem.
You'll need to find some way to deal with it on the stream. Simple
stretching, or passing them through your fingers with the intention of
heating them up a little with friction really does the trick.


If you straighten them with hot water and then coil them for storage
in your vest, you will still have memory. If you can not get up
enough heat with your fingers, there are leader straighteners on the
market. The trouble with them, however, is that you can not control
the heat. Too much heat and you damage the leader. It's best to use
your fingers, and if you do not *feel* the heat, you are not applying
enough pressure with your fingers. When you placed the leaders in hot
water, what do you think straightened them? The heat. There is no
hot water on a stream, so a leader straightener or your fingers are
the only solution.


Where are you fishing using 7x, and what for, Dave?


Dave


You know, Dave, I've been rethinking this whole problem. On Orvis
Super Strong leaders, it is not the tippet end that is difficult to
get rid of the memory, but the butt end. The first two or three feet
of the butt on *any* leader I have used is always were the memory is
the worse. The thicker the material, the more memory. The tippet end
easily straightens out with my hands/fingers. If you are having
trouble with memory in the tippet section, Dave, I think there is
something wrong with the leaders. There is *some* memory, but not
enough that you can't straighten it with your hands. You are either
pulling too fast or not applying enough pressure with your fingers.
Remember that once straightened your problems are not over. As soon
as you coil up that leader and put it in your vest, or wrap in up on
your reel, the next time you go to use it you will find the memory has
returned.

Switch to Orvis Super Strong if you can not straighten the leader with
your fingers or a leader straightener. There is no hot water on a
stream, and nowhere to plug in a hair dryer (which works just as well
- just tried it). Also, there is little, *if any*, memory in my
tippet when pulled from the spool. I unwind a piece, tie it on, and
return to fishing, no straightening needed.

Dave


The memory is the same regardless of material diameter, it merely has
more effect when thicker material is coiled.

MC