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Old November 16th, 2007, 11:18 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
W. D. Grey
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Default Newbie Question: What hopper pattern?

In article .com, Mike
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On 8 Nov, 22:02, "Wolfgang" wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message

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On 8 Nov, 21:18, BJ Conner wrote:
On Nov 7, 12:55 pm, mdk77 wrote:


Any recommendations on a hopper pattern? I've used Dave's Hopper and
had some success, but wondered if there were other patterns that were
worth trying. Thanks in advance for your advice.


I recommend Joe's Hopper. Easy to tie and good for trout and
bluegill.http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flyt.../3198fotw.html


If you shoot or have friends who hunt turkeys matched wing feathers
are needed to tie Joes Hopper. One turkey may result in a lifetime
supply.


That fly does not work very well, because it either floats too high,
or sinks.


It has worked very well for me.....and for countless others.

Hoppers sit with their bodies in the film.Chenille bodied
flies are not usually much use as dry flies, even when treated with
various floatants.


Depends on what you mean by "dry" flies. If one insists that dry flies must
remain entirely above the surface, then you're right.....chenille is a poor
choice. On the other hand, there are many patterns, commonly referred to as
dry flies, parts of which routinely penetrate the surface. The Pass Lake,
with its chenille body, is just such a fly, and it is extremely effective.
Blotted dry and treated with fumed silica it will also float entirely dry
quite nicely.....for a while.

p. s. for the OP. Stimulators and various other largish heavy dries will
often do well enough as emergency hoppers in lieu of more specific patterns.

Wolfgang


All true. But high floating flies are usually poor hopper imitations,
and when they sink they are even worse.

TL
MC

These days people refer to Dry, wet, and - yes damp flies. !

The true floaters are dry, the sinkers are wet, and those that are
fished in the surface film are called damp flies. Would you believe it
?
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Bill Grey