On 19 Nov, 06:56, riverman wrote:
On Nov 19, 10:27 am, "rb608" wrote:

"riverman" wrote in message
This guy should take a basic physical science class. The inside
surface of the pan is not demonstrably hotter than the water;

I took his meaning to avoid touching the part of the pot above the water
line, but yeak, the inside surface can't be above 212F for all practical
purposes.

Joe F.

I hadn't thought of that; its a good observation. If someone does boil
(or heat) their leaders, be sure not to bump the pan when you are
removing it.

And speaking of boiling leaders....that won't get me in trouble with
the Patriot Act, will it?

--riverman

Most unlikely, most are pretty hard-boiled anyway.

With regard to not touching the sides of a pan etc. If you allow
materials in a dye pot near or at boiling point to touch the side of
the metal vessel, they will curl and singe. Why this is I don´t really
know, as it is theoretically impossible for the inside vessel side to
be much hotter than its contents. Which is why you can boil water over
a fire in orange peel, or coconut shells, which would otherwise simply
burn. If you do this the materials WILL singe and curl though.

To reiterate once again, I don´t boil my leaders, and I don´t advocate
anybody else doing it. But placing them in hot water is harmless. The
water only needs to be hand hot to achieve your objective here,
( straightening the leader, and making it limp), so it does not
matter whether the leader touches the sides of the container or not.

TL
MC