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Old December 30th, 2007, 11:14 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Larry L
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"Mike" wrote


By fighting among yourselves, and being extremely hateful to each

other on these issues, you are giving the terrorists and the
politicians who would use the situation to control you, even more
power, and furthering their aims.

MC



I won't often waste the time to post " I agree"

But,

most of the greatest damage that has been done to this country since 9-10-01
has been done by ourselves, to ourselves.

It is cowardly to willingly give up important ideals and values that should
define our strengths, to gain some tiny illusion of increased physical
security, and cowards can't retain freedom for long.

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Certainly and obviously there are real dangers and increased real world
security such as scans in airports and such are fitting to that danger.
Nobody I know denies the real threat, but many I know magnify it to the
point they become one themselves.

The real key to fighting terrorism is friends ... normal people willing to
go out of their way to warn us about the weirdos and wackos out there, it's
called human intelligence, I believe, It's a kind of Neighborhood
Watch, and it demands that WE be decent enough that others are willing to
help us and to make the effort to report the odd and the suspect.

Yet "we" via our leaders have made far more new enemies that friends the
last 7 years. And we have become enemies to ourselves, wasting valuable
fighting spirit on each other, when we need it all for the real enemies.

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Each time we, as individuals, and in mass, via our elected representatives,
weaken our nation by further dividing it, we are the tools of the enemy.
Disagreement, discussion, hard won compromise, sure. But nastiness
beyond reason, nastiness that further divides, nastiness that actually makes
reason nearly impossible, nastiness that stalls our government and all but
destroys even a silly forum on the 'Net ... these are the tools of bin
Laden and his allies, whether knowingly used as such, or not.

We need to all work to make America stronger ... and it should be clear I
don't mean just buy more bombs ... we are crumbling from within.

"United we Stand ..... " and it never meant "in perfect agreement" ...
rather more like "watching each other's backs regardless ........"