On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 21:19:16 -0500, JR wrote:

wrote:

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Happy Holidays,

Same to you.

...and on a more serious note - do you doubt that it is effective?

Yes.

Here's an interesting thing: The debate, seemingly and for most, is
not over its effectiveness in making people disclose information, but
rather, whether or not it is or isn't "torture."

I don't think that's true. No one doubts that it is highly
effective at making people disclose *information," only that it
is effective at making people disclose the *truth.*

- JR

That's true.

For instance, if *I* was being waterboarded, the very first double-naught spy
I'd give up would be Richard.

/daytripper (and then I'd name the rest of you scurvy dogs ;-)