wrote:
On 13-Feb-2008, Halfordian Golfer wrote:

n Feb 13, 12:47 pm, salmobytes wrote:
I spent yesterday afternoon visiting my old friend Tom and his buddy
Pete.
Tom is 68 and Pete 87. These old Ennis Montana old timers are among
the oldest (former) Montana fishing guides still kicking around. Tom
and Pete
told me stories about fishing the Missouri below Tosten dam in the
late 1960s,
when mayfly hatches were so thick the surface of the river looked like
it had
the whirlies.

Today, some 40 odd years later, the hatches there are nearly non-
existent.
What's made the difference? Tom said he thinks it's agricultural
pesticides.
The Missouri down near Wolf Creek still has some good hatches
(although nothing
like they used to be) but that water comes out of three dam, deep
water
filtering system. The Missouri in the Tosten area shallow, containing
undiluted
runnoff from millions of acres of fields, all sprayed regularly with
an every
increasing diversity of noxious chemicals.

Tom said he'd asked various Fish and Game biologists about his theory.
They all said "Sure, we think that too. But we have no baseline data
from
50 years ago, and therefore no way to prove the allegation."

Still, as the old timers can tell you, the hatches are nothing like
they used to be.
Great story.

Reminds me of this guy I'd see sitting out in his pickup truck at the
South Canyon dump near Glenwood Springs. I swear, he'd just sit out
there all damned day. I was clearing some brush so was making dozens
of trips out every weekend for a whole summer. Well, I got to know him
pretty well. He was old, I know that, how old? Not sure. One time I
told him I'd been fishing on main elk creek and he said, "Ya, I used
to go up there, but I quit. Too easy. All a feller needs is one of
them hopper flies. Watch for bears".

And another great story - thanks guys


I concur some great stories.



It was always better in the olden days - they say???
In these cases it is probably true,


They say that Patagonia is like MT 50-75 yrs ago
Thats why it is on my list Wow!


That nostalgia thing often is just that. In the US, the quality and
quantity if fishing available is MUCH greater than it was 50 years ago.
The only downside, IMO, is that it is also much more crowded. 50 years
ago a fly fisherman was an odd sort of guy who fished in rubber pants.
Today fly fishing is a "cool" thing to do.

Willi