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Old February 17th, 2008, 11:33 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Ken Fortenberry[_2_]
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Default So, OK, he's for change, he gives Chris Mathews a feeling "uphisleg,"and...

Bob Weinberger wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
Yeah, there's that but perhaps he wasn't lying in the first place.
One thing we do know for a fact is that the Swiftboating of Kerry
was a pack of despicable lies so you'll have to excuse me if I don't
place a whole lot of credence in your Swiftboat redux.


No perhaps about it. Based on my knowledge of situation in Viet Nam at the
time he and I were there, there is no way in Hell that he witnessed all he
said under oath that he had. Also though we know for a fact that some of
the SwiftBoaters allegations were outright lies, based my own experiences
and on conversations I've had with fellow Naval officers who were in Nam at
the same time, and have no axe to grind Kerry, there is no way I can
accept as fact that all the allegations were lies. ...


Well Bob, I'm afraid you're just gonna have to accept that I
find you less credible than John Kerry (and all the living
members of his crew). You appear to have some sort of axe to
grind with the Vietnam Vets Against The War and with Kerry
being their spokesman before Congress. You also appear to be
if not a Swiftboater, then at least a Swiftboater wannabe.

BTW I was not and am not a Bush supporter. I was unable to hold my nose long
enough to vote for him even though based on my perceptionof Kerry's
character (actually his lack thereof) there was no way I would vote for him.
So I cast a futile protest vote for some non-viable 3rd party candidate
(can't even remember who at this point).


Yeah, I'm sorry but you're self-reported voting record is not
at all persuasive.

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Ken Fortenberry