"Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message
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Just because I disagree with your definition and belief about C&R it's
crap.
OK....

Socratic? Yeah right!

JT

The fact JT is that you mocked the agreement we had and you flat
answered a different question. The question I asked was true or false
and you went on about some 'definition of C&R'. This was really unfair
as I laid it out there in my answer as part of the gentlemen's
agreement and acknowledged that I routinely practice C&R, something
I've said in the past. In fact JT I routinely fished the 1st public
waters in the United States that was managed as pure C&R under the
"Fishing is Fun" program and was pretty staunch for about 25 years
that I'm concluding we need a better strategy and have always felt the
animal rights people could crush us by applying this same logical set
of questions.

Wrong again... I didn't answer your question true for the simple fact that I
didn't agree with everything in your question.


But, with your answer you basically asserted that fish do not
experience stress when hooked and then gave some trite definition. I
provided the biological data that shows this is an undeniable claim.
Nobody, I mean nobody, discussing this honestly believes a fish is not
at least stressed by the act. This is a good place to start as we have
the biology (chemical changes in the fish's blood) and understand a
lot about stress in fish.

The attempt was purely Socratic but fell apart because of your
response, which was crap. It was a great answer to the question "what
is C&R?" but a completely meaningless answer to the question on the
table. In any Socratic discussion we must accept some truth as a
starting place, which is exactly why it was asked the way it was.

T or F - Fish are stressed, are maimed or die as the result of C&R .

It's possible, but more likely the fish will go on the survive another day
for future generations to enjoy.


Further, I don't think you've ever bothered to find out what I would
propose to change things, or why I go through this.

Inner demons?

Carry on,
JT