jeff miller wrote:

i have no idea what we did to or for sadie, our mainly golden, but dash
of other breeds, stray.

Sadie doesn't sound like a good candidate for a shock collar, to say the
least.

This Anatolian Shepherd was something else, man. I think it's a breed
thing. They're bred to protect (not herd) sheep and to work
independently. What Hank wants to do is, as far as I can tell,
characteristic of the breed: He gets up on high ground and searches in
the far distance for anything moving, and if he sees something he wants
to take off after it. This has led to some crazy chases.

It was either the shock collar or back to the pound for Hank. His
instinctive behavior is probably what put him in the pound in the first
place, because he's otherwise a well behaved dog.

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