On Sat, 3 May 2008 12:51:34 -0700, "Bob Weinberger"
wrote:

How much money?
Bring your wallet out to the Deschutes, Clearwater, Snake, or a any of a
dozen or so other large Pacific Northwest steelhead rivers anytime between
late August and mid November and I'll show you plenty of good steelhead
fishermen doing just that.

What kind of rods? You're telling me that these steelheaders can have
60 feet of line at their feet, and without one false cast get their
lure out 60 feet? No spey rods. No multi-rollcasts. Just take that
rod and without a falsecast toss it 60 feet. I'd pay good money for
someone to show me how to do that with a 5 weight which is my normal
nymphing rod.

Remember, this entire conversation began when I said that there is no
need to false cast when your rig goes downstream from you, all you
need is a circle cast. That's, maybe, twenty feet of line. Richard
asked why would anyone nymphing use a false cast. RW and I replied to
get more distance.

When steelheading with Peter, I've used an 8 weight, or a 10 ft Sage 7
weight. I could probably pick up thirty feet of line from downstream
and cast it back upstream an additional 30 feet using a circle cast
and no false casting. But it would be a nasty cast with a nymphing
rod (4 - 6 weight).

Dave