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That is not my answer at all and I never said it was. In my case it just so
happens to be the case. I certainly do not trust private "compasionate "
ownership. Humans are rarely compassionate & only when it suits them.
They can kill maim & torture each other over stupid variations in their
religious beliefs.
In the caseiof the Colorado rivers all that I did was to infer - that when
you have a lot of humans around money changes hands and money certainly
motivates politicians, developers and others regardless of the public
views.
What you do then is entirely up to you!
I am totally l in favor protecting lands from human development.and urban
sprawl
Colorado has certainly seen its lands endangered fom this.
Where does Denver begin and end now? Boulder is almost part of Denver Firt
Collins has at least quintupled in size.
Where, when and how does this end? Everyday more people are being born and
many are moving out West.
The last time I was in Vegas - speaking of a dead ******** - On the trams -
There was a recording saying how next cenrury, at this growth rate there
will be a trillion people there - SICK CITY? i do not believe in politics
as a vaible ottion and I have not for a long time..
However Willi and Tim - I do wish you luck with your envionmental and
political aspirations and endeavors but I offer no other or better options

Fred

As I see it, you either have public lands and have to deal with the
politics or you have private land. Don't know of any other alternative.

Willi