On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 21:29:15 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:00:56 -0400, jeff miller
wrote:

i don't
accept the notion that the majority of muslims or their governments are
WTT-bombing lunatics and religious zealots when it comes to dealing with
the world community.

Hmmmm. How soon we forget....

Rememer post 9/11? News footage from every major Muslim country/city
celebrating our losses. Syria, Egypt, Saudi A., Iraq, Iran,
Afghanistan, Pakistan, Kuwait. Hell, just about everywhere.
Celebrating. Cheering. Happy at our losses.

Huh? While I'd agree that there were scenes of relatively small crowds
"cheering," I'd offer that the vast majority of Muslims were shocked and
horrified at the loss of life. I'd further offer that many Muslims feel
that such broad action is an insult to Islam. IAC, 9/11 had absolutely
nothing to do with Obama and/or his apostation, and I think suggesting
that a repeat is likely based solely upon it is W-A-A-A-A-Y out there.
No, further than that. Nope, further still...

They don't like us,
Jeff. It fact, they hate us.

"They?" OK, name "them." And which "us" are you talking about? Name
them, too, please. While I'd agree that some Muslims do "hate" certain
other groups that may include you, me, jeff, etc., I'd suggest that
Muslims "hating" "Americans" isn't the real issue behind 9/11 and
similar attacks worldwide. The real issue isn't a single issue at all,
it's a whole situation. And no, it isn't Bush's fault, Bill Clinton's
fault, or any other single person or country's fault. And no, McCain,
Obama, and Clinton, together or individually, aren't gonna "fix" it. Get
used to THAT.

Get used to it. It will be around for
the next hundred years or so.

Unless you have a crystal ball, I'd offer that something that has been
going on for over two thousand years isn't likely to be solved - really
- in the next hundred...at least not in a fashion many are going to like
or approve of...

Either they win and everyone goes back
to the Middle Ages, or civilization wins.

Or nobody wins...and most everybody loses...martyrs and those who
actually get a passel of virgins, excepted, perhaps...

OTT, fishing is very good. Took several big brookies this a.m. on the
dreaded Green Rock Worm, several "lesser" ones, and four very nice
(18+ inch) landlocks on the same fly.

The water is warming up

Leaky waders, huh...?

but there are no hatches. I am beginning to
fear that the &%$@(@ power company may have scoured the river with
high flows in late winter/early spring, sending all the bugs into the
woods where they died.

Joanne and Jenny are in camp. Spent the night around the fire
listening to Bebel Gilberto and her mom and dad, Astrid and Joao.

There's a special running around on one of the "educational" channels -
Frank, Joao, and Ella - I only saw part and didn't see Astrid, but what
I saw, I liked - check your local listings, as "they" say...

TC,
R

Dave