On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:42:22 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
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Ah...I'd offer the problem is what definition of "threat" one is using.
I'd further offer that "threat" isn't limited to a personal physical
threat against Obama, but rather, the "threat" posed against the US in
general from possible complications resulting from Muslims "seeing" (or
admittedly, being steered toward such a conclusion by vested Muslim
interests) the "great Satan" US having elected an apostate as leader and
then, "insulting Islam" by having him (Obama as leader and him
personally) make demands of Islamic governments that are arguably
"anti-Islamic."

several thoughts at once occurred while digesting this short bit of prose
above:
1. How much more of a 'great Satan' can the US become
in the eyes of those who would be readily led in that
direction?

OK, I'll play...how much more...?

2. Why is it inherently necessary that the US president be
making 'demands' of any sort on Islamic or any
government, under most circumstances?

Shirley...you jest - you somehow figure the US isn't gonna be making
demands, um, right, left, and, well, center...? And I'm pretty sure
that no one making the demand is gonna be overly concerned about the
religion of any of the demandees...at least not internally, anyway...

In fact, the collective attitude that we have the right to demand of
others in such a fashion has probably contributed much
to some of the problems which the US has, notably in
the Middle East.

Oh, ****...not you, too...what the hell is it with the weatisms...maybe
some weoplasty or a weectomy is in order...either that, or a usisism or
some theyacilin - something....

IAC, if you mean "we" to include all of the folks that tend to feel
secure in their right to demand that all others conform to whatever it
is they happen to think is the think others need to conform to at any
given time, then, yes. If you mean something else, maybe...or not...

IOW, everyone wants their own Godamned way...

3. This statement, as a part of this whole thread suggests
that none of us really has much of a clue how the Muslim
world will react to the topic at hand,

Wells sure...we're talking about, what, 1.5 billion ****in' people
spread out over, what, the planet or something...how the hell is anyone
gonna speak for all of them...? And that's a big part of my argument:
nobody - repeat - nobody has any special insight into how so many people
might react to anything. The potential very large subsets of groups
that large is simply outside accurate prediction. Would you bet much on
a race of a billion horses when you knew little or nothing about over
999 million of them...?

or much of
anything within that culture. Perhaps this illustrates why,
to as great an extent as possible, we, as a nation, might
do well to avoid interjecting ourselves into that culture.
It hasn't worked well to date, and I see no reason to
expect great change anytime soon......

Interjection is one thing, consideration is another.

TC,
R

Tom