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Old June 4th, 2008, 04:04 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default A weird dilemma for Obama...

On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 08:06:20 -0400, jeff miller
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interpretation and application too.



Er...perhaps some Anais Nin, a particularly nice Bordeaux, and some
Astroglide...application optional...

TC,
R

And on a related note - apostate or otherwise, it's a damned fine night
for "America" (yeah, **** it, I'll be a bit America-centric) - whatever
else happens, the US has come a long way, baby...a guy with a black
African father and a white mom from Kansas has gotten a damned decent
share of support from a big chunk of US voters, and thus far, not a
dumbass with a firehose, dog, or cut-up bedsheet in sight...now, if he
can just live up to his hype...


i knew we'd find common ground somewhere in all of this! g


I'm surprised this hasn't been posted:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/01/op...ewanted=2&_r=1

I particularly liked the part about how Islamic law doesn't apply to "an
American"...maybe that's how Menem beat a date with the sword of
justice...

Seriously, though, read the above with a critical, objective eye - a
couple of things I noted were that none of the scholars quoted seemed to
willing to come right out and say, "Obama's not an apostate and even if
he were, it doesn't matter because Islam doesn't address it and Muslims
don't care about such things..." and that the "it doesn't matter" crowd
(of non-Muslims) in the US suggest that no one in the Middle East cares
because it hasn't been reported by the news there...

TC,
R



jeff