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Old June 26th, 2008, 04:58 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default OT Lies, liars and SF-180

On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:10:14 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 08:16:36 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

why should the voters
see him as qualified to be Commander in Chief ?


For the same reason they voted for a draft dodger?

For the same reason they voted for someone who only served 1/2 a tour
in Nam as a Spec 4 and then flunked out of divinity school.

For the same reason they voted for an O3 with an "unusual" discharge?


And that has to do with McCain how, exactly?

Lots of navy captains do not make admiral. The important thing to
remember is that he made O6 (Captain) and that requires a helluva lot
of leadership qualities.


Generally speaking, yes, but let's not get into fantasyland here - there
have been officers of all ranks that, er, "wasn't fit to shovel ****
from one place to a'ner..."

Obama has done what?


As to executive governance, nothing, as the record clearly
demonstrates...

....but OTOH, very few newly-elected US Presidents have had prior
experience as US Presidents...only one, IIRC, has had prior
experience...and that won't change this year, either...

Actually served as a
senator for 143 days? I'll take the leadership of navy captain any
day to an inexperienced charasmatic senator.


Um...howsabout Duke Cunningham...?

And, if you think flying off a carrier on wartime sorties is a "plum
job", then you know diddly **** about flying or carriers. He was
there flying in harm's way. Your guy was at Oxford demonstrating
against the US while McCain was escaping from his exploding A4 Skyhawk
after the fire on Forrestal. McCain was almost killed in that fire.
The Forrestal was removed from the theater and returned home. The
entire air wing went with it, except for a few pilots that volunteered
to change to a different carrier air group. McCain volunteered for
than trasfer.

McCain has an honored family background of Naval heros. Your guy has
a black muslim father and a white mother whom he is ashamed of because
she's white. He was raised by his white grandparents, but praises not
them but his father.

Plum job, my ass. All of your boys are the ones with the plum jobs,
Ken.

Talk about trying to swiftboat Obama..............


Well, we could, or we could just, um, call a spade a spade: both
candidates, their respective parties, and their most ardent supporters
are practicing politics as usual...the first rule of which is to claim
you're gonna do what the people want - if they are happy, you promise to
insure the status quo and if they are unhappy, you claim you're the only
person in the country who can bring about change...

HTH,
R

Dave