On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:41:46 -0400, jeff miller
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:15:03 -0400, jeff miller
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You don't send in the tactical
squad to a domestic complaint.

Dave

uh...perhaps you aren't familiar with the current law enforcement
policies and the procedures employed in responding to "domestic
violence" complaints. it's all tactical, storm trooper stuff nowadays...


Oh, Lord, not another extreme...no, it isn't "all tactical, storm
trooper stuff nowadays..." but the Weaver/Ruby Ridge situation involved
people who had pulled guns on LE before (including the wife), had a
stockpile of guns and ammo, and the primary thing that started it all
was Weaver's ready agreement to sell shortened shotguns (regardless of
them being slightly over or under 18" barrels) to urban gang members so
as to encourage them to kill each other. This wasn't Mrs. Campbell
calling Andy because Otis was likkered-up and, um, "frisky." IAC, as
I'm sure you well know, LEOs hate domestic calls more than any other,
but with the very good reason that they are the most dangerous overall
category of call the average LEO ever faces.

TC,
R

jeff

uh...hardly. look again. dave said "you don't send the tactical squad
to a domestic complaint". i said...yes they do in domestic violence
complaints. i wasn't talking about ruby ridge or waco...just correcting
dave's statement in the general context of domestic violence complaints.
hardly extreme.

Uh...you said "it's _all_ tactical, storm trooper stuff" (emp. mine) -
I'd say that's a fairly extreme characterization - YMMV.

i've not contested your statements, nor have i entered
the fray... one of the reasons the tactical squads are sent is because
of the possible danger; but, when andy and aunt b have an argument and 5
of mt. airy's armed deputies with plenty of bullets, and about as much
tactical sense as barney, show up, well...it can get interesting. and,
yeah, it is tactical, storm trooper stuff. probably merited on a worst
case scenario basis. take a citizen's ride along one evening with your
county's domestic violence squad sometime. there are several reasons
they make you sign that release. g

I'd offer that not _all_ domestic cases are met with such action, and
from what I've heard, I'd further offer that most aren't.

TC,
R

jeff