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Old October 16th, 2008, 12:58 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 06:37:07 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
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I'm truly undecided - ...
Three weeks out, after an interminable election season, you're
*UNDECIDED* !! Un-****in'-believable.


That's right, "undecided."


Right before the second "townhall" debate it was explained that
the onstage audience consisted of "undecided" voters. My response
was, "What bar or asylum did they scrape these idiots out of ?"
My wife simply said, "Morons".


Ah, so anyone who has decided to support McCain isn't a "moron" or
"idiot" in your view. Well, in my view, anyone who has decided firmly
on either of these guys is too blindly partisan and/or ill-informed to
merit much consideration. There is simply too much "wrong" with both of
them to support an objective stance of one being vastly "better" a
choice than the other. Hell, I've politely asked repeatedly and stated
plainly that if anyone could convince me that Obama is even half of what
is claimed, I'd vote for him. All I've gotten is a bunch of partisan
crap, mostly anti-Bush or anti-GOP. So I'll repeat: Give me your sales
pitch on Obama - _on Obama_ - hell, you don't have to convince me he's
the second coming, the "real deal," or anything else, well, impossible,
just convince me he's even marginally the better candidate, and like I
said, he can have my vote.


... I will say that I don't completely trust Obama's
motives, but McCain appears to have gone completely "pol." ...
What is that supposed to mean, you don't trust Obama's "motives" ?


Well, for one, he never answers a question, even easy, obvious ones,
just like a cut-rate, punk-ass Clinton. Of course, that alone doesn't
disqualify him from office IMO, but it means that I don't completely
trust him or his motives. I suspect, but am not 100% convinced, that he
nothing but a power-grasping little **** whose first and primary REAL
interest in all of this is Obama, goaded on by his bitch of a wife,
whose primary interest is herself...again, ala the Clintons.


Sounds like "Mississippi Code" to me.


If that's what you want to call it. Here's the translation:

Well, for one, he never answers a question, even easy, obvious ones,
just like a cut-rate, punk-ass Clinton. Of course, that alone doesn't
disqualify him from office IMO, but it means that I don't completely
trust him or his motives. I suspect, but am not 100% convinced, that he
nothing but a power-grasping little **** whose first and primary REAL
interest in all of this is Obama, goaded on by his bitch of a wife,
whose primary interest is herself...again, ala the Clintons.

And as far as Mississippi, Chuck Taylor, a Dem Congressman from S. Miss.
who has plenty of cross-party and cross-racial support (he's white)
isn't supporting Obama. And no, he's not vulnerable in the least - he
could hold Obama rallies on the beach every day and he'd be safe. Hell,
he'd probably get some white Republicans voting for Obama. But he has
pointedly _not supported_ him. And as far as racism, from what I can
tell, the bulk of Obama's black support is based solely upon his race.
That's no different from folks who won't vote for him based on his race.

Would anyone be calling McCain a racist if Obama was white...?

HTH,
R