"Larry L" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote


The sad part is



whisper Pss... Bill, your senility is showing /whisper


How did the trip to Burney go? Did you fish the Fall River? I have an
Outback 'Fall River Special' Pram I bought 20++ years ago especially to
fish there, but I haven't been up there in at least 10. Last time I was
there the .. um, unnamed ... fly shop was 'guiding' it's Johns by drifting
boats sideways through pods of rising fish (putting them down of course)
with big bobbers and nymphs while the guide shouted "set, set" to said
Johns ... so pathetic and sickening, so 'how many' 'how many' 'how many'
that I've never had the desire to go back and be forced to witness it
again.





BTW, I've supported Obama precisely because I feel he's the best hope for
rebuilding this country and giving my son's ( he's 21) generation a chance
to somewhat reverse our errors. But, the biggest challenges they face
will only be indirectly financial and it will take investment to have any
prayer of solving them.


I'm retired, and watching my personal security go down daily as markets
crumble, it's scary **** I agree, but no where near as scary as a future
of 'more of the same' for my kid.

MY response to my fears? I sent a few more of my scarce buck$ to Obama
last night, it's an investment for my kid. NO, I don't expect that
investment to make big improvements in MY remaining life, and NO I see no
guarantees except that failure to wisely invest will destroy this country.
The problems on the horizon are huge and far more important than just GDP
and Wall Street. Because I love my kid ( most kids, really ;-) I'm
willing to cut back for them and I'm willing to gamble on a new direction
... not much of a gamble really, since the old one is certain failure.




When it comes to government, "small" is always relative, it's always big
by definition, "smart" and "honest" are the keys to success ... Obama is
smart and honest, smart enough to see years down the path, smart enough to
surround himself with the very best in each field and of all pursuasions
and actually listen to them, and honest enough to actually give a ****
about representing the people and working for their benefit ... long term
as well as short.



"Your old road is rapidly aging, please get out of the new one if you
can't lend a hand" G


ASIDE: For years it's seemed to me that the Republicans ( not Joe the
Whatever, or the Churchy Moms that just vote R ... the smoke filled room
guys at the top of the party ) do NOT see themselves as "representatives
of the people" rather they see themselves as "the ruling class"
Those two things are very different.

Given the inconvenience of our system they have to get people to vote for
them. Like ruling classes over history they see the peasants as stupid
and treat them that way ... thus Palin and Bush II and 'policy' that
appeals to one issue sound bite accepting wingnuts ( 'get yo hand off my
gun,' 'protect all babies until they are born, then to hell with em,' 'NO
taxes' ) As long as those wingnuts don't fight more money and power going
to the already rich and too powerful, those rich and powerful 'rulers' are
willing to 'support' such crap, whether they believe it or not ( look how
far "socially right" McCain claims to have moved in the last 4 years as
he's prepared to run, does anyone actually believe that change is real, I
don't .... but I DO believe it's totally dishonest ).

END ASIDE:



As I asked Mr. Miller, "do you spend your way out of debt?". And I do not
feel Obama is honest. As Chicago friends say, Obama as accomplished nothing
for them.

As to Burney, Fishing was OK, catching was bad. Was more of an exploration
trip. Did not fish the Hat Creek or Fall River. Went up to Big Lake, and
was very much an Algae hole. We were looking at taking the Canoe or Kayak
up there from the State Parks pictures of the springs are. Could not find
the springs until a nice gentleman told us to follow him at the end of the
day. Water went from 6" vis to 20' and see the bottom in about a 20'
distance. Saw lots of small trout and wife saw one about 24". But to late
in the day to stay and fish, as wanted to get to the launch ramp while it
was still light and I could find it. Next day went to Lake Britton and
fished Burney Creek. Lots of really big Stoneflies. Maybe the trout were
sated, but only one person caught a trout. Went exploring Lake Britton and
did try for some smallmouth. Failed on that endeavor also. But mid 30's at
night and 70's during the day made for a nice trip. So much Algae in the
lake, that I thought I was going to run aground at the ramp. Looked like
you were seeing the greenish bottom about 12" deep. Was 24' deep according
to the depth finder. Think I may go up there next year, but more likely
take the Canoe / kayaks to June Lake area. Going out to fish Stripers in
the Sac Delta tomorrow.