On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:03:37 -0400, daytripper
wrote:

On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:30:15 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:44:40 -0400, daytripper
wrote:

On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:46:12 -0500, wrote:

It seems that Fox is the only major news outlet making mention of this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, it's Fox, but this is a quote of what Bill
Clinton said:

Clinton told the crowd at a Wednesday night rally with Obama in Florida.
"He said, 'Tell me what the right thing to do is. What's the right thing
for America? Don't tell me what's popular. You tell me what's right --
I'll figure out how to sell it.'"

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10...onomic-crisis/

Unfrigginbelievable...and this is the guy who is running commercials
blasting McCain for admitting he didn't know as much as he felt he
should about _economics_, not the _economy_, as Obama is advertising...

I can already hear the spin - he has advisors, he listens to others,
yada, yada, yada, but the fact remains he wanted others to tell him what
to do and he'd just be the guy who "sells it."

Sheesh,
R

Why do Presidents have Cabinets, partisan dumbass?

Ah. So I'm curious, why doesn't he know or at least have a pretty good
idea of "what's right?" I mean, he has been claiming he knows what's
wrong and he has published his super-duper plan that supposedly clearly
explains how he will fix everything, plus he claims he has so many
answers to so many questions, so why does he need to have others "tell
him what's right?" This isn't him saying, "I have a plan, and I'm
pretty sure it's what I'm going to do, but before I commit to it, I want
your advice/input," or even "Here's my thoughts on this, what do you
think - what's your input," it's him saying he wants others to _tell him
what to do_. Are you electing him or to whoever he might turn to "tell
him what to do?" Do you trust him so completely to state here and now
and sign your name that you support whomever he might get to "tell him
what to do?"

And on another level, why does he need others to tell him what's right?
You'd think a person of his supposed intellect and education would have
some basic idea of right and wrong.

You accuse me of being a "partisan dumbass," but answer this question to
yourself: what would your reaction be if anyone other than your precious
St. Barack had said, "You tell me what's right -- I'll figure out how to
sell it."

HTH,
R

/daytripper (double sheesh)

yawn

As you haven't actually seen any actual quote from the actual Obama, you don't
actually have the first clue what might have been actually said, actually.

I haven't? I guess some of Sarge's gay male pros took over CNN while
others went down to Florida dressed as Clinton and Obama to give a stump
speech and fooled everyone:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC-9PgJfJIw

(Scroll to the end of the video, like the last 30 seconds or so, if you
don't want to watch the whole 10 minutes)

Answer the question: why do Presidents have Cabinets??

To delegate management, not to tell them what to do or how to be
leaders. Again, of course they also provide information and counsel,
but that's not telling him what to do or telling him what's right. IIRC,
you were among the ROFFians raising all sorts of hell about how you
thought Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc., told Bush what to do and/or were really
running the show - how do you reconcile that with Obama acquiescing to
Clinton saying the he (Obama) looked to others to tell him what to do
and what was right?

Finally, you are - and have always been - a transparently partisan dumbass -
regardless of how coy you try to be. You haven't been fooling anyone...

I obviously have fooled a fair number of folks, you included. I'm one
of the least partisan people on ROFF and likely as not, one of the least
partisan people you'll ever encounter.

HTH,
R

/daytripper