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Old March 13th, 2009, 06:18 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Mar 13, 8:07*am, "Larry L" wrote:
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Congrats. *FWIW - and speaking only from relayed info, not personal
experience -
you might wish to look into one of the after-market "chip programmers."
From
what I've heard, the new models are "tuned up" to provide _significantly_
more
HP than the older models (as are all US diesel PUs in the "power wars" -
IMO,
really, an advertising "numbers" war with little real-world application),
which,
as you probably know, isn't always a good or even necessary thing with
many
diesel engine apps.


Yeah, I looked at used trucks pretty hard just because the new ones get less
mileage.

This brand new ( '08 ) puts out 194% more HP then my '92 Cummins and 163%
more torque !! * The power wars are another example of how the Big 3 have
let themselves ( and U.S. ) down .... I'd have gotten a new truck years ago
IF mileage had improved *at those rates .


I've never really understood the fixation on HP/Torque.

If you had the choice between two vehicles:

1.0x HP/Torque and 1.5x MPG

vs

1.5x HP/Torque and 1.0x MPG

Is there some level when HP/Torque is just sufficient for
what you need? I would have thought for 99% of people
we would have long since hit that point.
- Ken