On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 01:56:08 -0700 (PDT), DaveS wrote:

On Mar 13, 7:34*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:53:47 -0700 (PDT), Outdoors in Oregon

wrote:
On Mar 13, 2:20*pm, DaveS wrote:
On Mar 11, 9:55*am, DaveS wrote:

On Mar 11, 5:52*am, jeff wrote:

DaveS wrote:
His lawyers say he was crazy. Duhhh. In this case, we
don't care.

too sad, all around...and as succinct a statement of the logic behind
the death penalty as i've ever seen.

jeff

Everybody gets the death penalty in this life. The principle I like
is, . . . You shorten violently someone else's life . . . you get your
own life shortened. This guy sliced her over, and over and over and
over and over. Then he raped her, then finished her off, sliced her
some more, put her in her car trunk to rot, hopped a plane for
California and attacked two women there. He confessed.

He's stalled the system for 18 years, constantly a threat to other
prisoners. His defense? Bad upbringing. One thing folks forget is that
these folks often continue to kill in prison, where they carryout
death sentences on other prisoners at their leisure. I suggest folks
who favor life for these kinds of cases might walk some of the talk by
applying to work as guards, or even teachers in prison.

Dave

Well ****, the Supreme Court assholes of the State of Washington once
again have delayed the execution of Cal Brown until after a review of
the lethal injection method in May. Brown admitted spending 34 hours
torturing, raping and slashing his little 22 year old girl victim
before he finished her off. I just do not understand the corrupted
justice system and the wicked people who have allowed this man to
continue to live, and permit the system's functionaries to continue
the torment of her family. I would gladly volunteer to carry out the
sentence with a Louisville Slugger if that will end this charade.

Dave

They should make it take 34 hours.....and use a rusty needle.

Ya know, that's pretty big talk for a secessionist, "they should" - are you -
personally - prepared to "make it take 34 hours...and use" anything?

Just Curious,
R
...hey, you may well be, but...

No, 34 hours is how long Brown sliced, diced, raped, and sliced her
some more, BEFORE he killed her with his hands. Apparently, in police
circles Brown achieved a sculpted horror that outdid horrific
Hollywood. But back to the point: Executing Brown as a batting
volunteer. To me, killing a person with a ball-bat, swung full, and in
a regular rhythm, just doesn't seem like it could prolong life more
than for what I would guess might be 3-5 hits before death would come.
Especially if Brown were held down or tethered for the first 1-2
shots, similar to slaughtering a water buffalo. You got to figure that
out of nervousness maybe every other intended head shot is going to
smash a shoulder or a couple of ribs. And a shot to smash a knee joint
is just as likely to hit a thigh and do little to kill him. But all in
all, connecting with even one good or more likely 2 strong head shots
is very likely to start brain death. But getting back to the point,
torturing Brown for a long time, even for your normal ROFFIAN
whackjob, IS probably unrealistic. But JTs heart IS in the right
place.

Just speaking for myself, it would take a strong stomach, but I think
I'd give it a go. I'd be damn happy to be able to get in all 3-5 hits,
in a rain suit of course. Understand, I am just saying that IF there
is a problem for the State in getting someone to shorten this man's
life as per his sentence of death for the horrific murder of a young
girl, and no one was comming forward, I would give it a go. And you?
Its all really theoretical so why not speculate?

I have no doubt that I _could_ execute him by whatever method I wished or was
instructed to use. The difference is that I'd have no desire to (absolutely
pointlessly) "torture" him while doing it, nor would I follow what I know would
be illegal and I personally believe to be immoral instructions to do so.

HTH,
R

Dave