On Mar 16, 5:26*pm, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
"DaveS" wrote in message

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Who said anyone should be denied a trial and a lawyer.

You were. Or, at least suggesting denying legal appeals.

Listen up . . .

we're reading here, not listening. But, carry on......

I said defending murderers CONVICTED of AGGRAVATED murder. Convicted

means they have ALREADY had their trial. I didn't say they shouldn't
work thru the political process to change the law. if thats their
issue. And I didn't say folk shouldn't vote whatever way they choose.

still, you implied that folks shouldn't be allowed to exercise legal means
to prevent exectutions, if I read you correctly. As if executing someone
like the person you cite, was going to deter the next deranged soul from
doing something equally heinous. You almost seem to have some sick sort of
blood lust going on this matter.

Capisch?

do you mean 'capiche'? *Pass the calimari, old Dave's going all Siciliano on
us, now!

It bothers me that a determined minority can turn our justice

system and corrections system into a hellish nightmare for the
majority of law abiders and law breakers, based on their need to
protect a few monsters that they personally would be too gutless to
guard, or even have the stomach to look at a photo of the victims, and

parade their hypocracy as if they were morally superior.

my, my!! Didn't we get our righteous indignation up today? Spare me. Active
minorities have fostered change, for better or worse, in our society since,
well since forever. You can't cherry pick which issues can and cannot be
raised, IMO.

Don't even know what the F--- this means. As a kid I had goats and

chickens, and dogs. We ate the chickens (and rabbits and pheasants and
an occasional squirrel if hungry enough) and drank the goat milk. If
guinea pigs weren't rat like, or you could have milked them I would

have . . . . whatever.

we had guinea pigs around when I was a kid. Dogs and horses, too. We ate
none of them, and I wouldn't recommend milking a dog, FWIW.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *yeesh, as they
say...
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Executing monsters convicted of aggravated murder certainly does
prevent them from killing other prisoners and guards. That is who they
kill AFTER the bleeding hearts go home and there are no more billable
hours to suck out of public defender budgets. Or maybe no one is
murdered in the prisons in Pennsylvania? Who do you think kills in
prison and effectively turns some petty criminals' burglary, drug or
fraud conviction, into a death sentence? When the State is frustrated
in carrying out its death sentence for AGGRAVATED MURDER, the death
sentence is just passed on to the other prisoners and guards these men
prey upon in prison. Think about that for a moment.

My blood lust? What about the blood lust of the antis who think
nothing of the murdered victims who their protected monsters continue
to kill in prison? I've known 2 murderers and suspected another. Both
threatened me. One even tried to sue me. I faced one down and the
other suceeded in intimidating me. Criminals are one of the side
dishes if you work in the human services world. The one I suspected is
still running loose. And Ive been retired for 8 years. Criminals are a
major negative factor in the efficiency and effectiveness of US human
services.

And Tom, if murderers are so immune to discouragement by capital
punishment, why do most fight execution so much? Anyone who says that
a real threat to kill (or execute) is not scary, is a fool or has not
really been threatened. Being fearful for your life is an effective
motivator whether you believe it or not. It may be the only thing some
murderous assholes do understand. Sadly enough.

Dave