"steve sullivan" wrote in message
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My friend is a fly shop owner and he told me the reason warranty
prices
are rising is dishonesty. He said guides will break a rod themselves
and send it back to the company at the end of the season. They have
down time so they can afford the wait, and it prevents them from
having
it break on a guide trip and loosing serious $$

Yeah, those people who slam them in car doors, ceiling fans, etc are
just a
minor segment of the warranty returns...... What a dumbass!

Since the no fault warranty warranty repairs have skyrocketted. So
those accidents just happen to dramatically increase?

And you call ME a dumbass when I have the facts and the anecdotes from
fly shop owners to back it up?

You don't have any facts, just the opinion of one flyshop owner, and it
doesn't make sense. I sincerely doubt guides will intentionally break a rod
at the end of the guiding year. I have never intentionally broken a rod, and
none of the folks I guide with do either. In fact, about the only time I
break a rod is when I am fishing on my own, and when it happens, it usually
through something pretty spectacular like a fall.

You should take a closer look at the stated reasons for guides breaking fly
rods intentionally. According to you, if a guide intentionally breaks a rod
at the end of the season, it won't happen on a guided trip? That is just
plain ridiculous. In the first case, it presupposes that fly rods wear out
in a year. That is nonsense. Secondly, clients typically use their own rods,
not the guides'. Guides will carry spare rods in case of accidents, and
these rods would never see enough use by a client to wear out so that a
guide would consider breaking it. Thirdly, fly rods break for a variety of
reasons, and a new rod is a likely to snap as an old rod. Breakage is not
predictable, and a pretty low probability event that few really worry about,
short of carrying a few spares with them.

I think the point Warren was trying to make, and it is a good one, is that
guides are a relatively small component of the rod market. There are many,
many, more anglers than there are guides. The reason fly rod replacements
have increased is because of the increase in rod sales to the general
public, not to guides.

Tim Lysyk
timlysyk at telus dot net