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Old April 24th, 2009, 09:44 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Apr 24, 3:09*pm, MajorOz wrote:
On Apr 24, 2:26*pm, Ken Fortenberry



wrote:
MajorOz wrote:
I hesitate to bring this up, figgering that there will be lots of
silly responses, but, I swear, they are serious questions that have
been haunting me for some time. ...


If you're fishing the Arkansas tailwaters beneath Bull Shoals and
Norfork (and that's what it sounds like to me), fuhgedaboudit. You
ain't never gonna have real trout fishing there because there ain't
any real trout there. Tailwater fishing is, by definition, phony
baloney trout fishing. I spent almost six years thinking there must
be a solution before I gave up. You may as well go to Montauk or
Bennett Springs and flail the water with Purina trout chow "wooly
buggers".


The only halfway decent, semi-approaching, real trout fishing in
Missouri/Arkansas is on the Missouri Blue Ribbon streams. Several
of us on roff have fished the Eleven Point between Greers and
Turner Mill. You should be able to Google up the TRs.


Thank you. *Haven't tried the Eleven Point, but mean to, soon. * And
you are correct. *NorthFork, below Norfolk Dam is where most of the
frustration takes place -- and Tanneycomo. * The only place I have
found the even comes close to the "old stuff" is way below Montauk.

But I will keep looking.

And I cry each time I go back to the mountains. *The South Platte has
been totally *******ized into one huge "pay lake". * Even some of my
old Wyoming rivers are now roped off. *I guard, to the death, those
places, like the Snowys and Blues, the still feel classic.

cheers

oz, who had trouble wading/casting and breathing at the same time at
10K+ ft last Aug near Independence Pass.


There are many streams in Missouri that offer the kind of fishing you
are looking for. You will not often catch big fish and truthfully,
you will spend a lot of time experimenting on these streams before you
experience a great deal of success. I don't know where you are in MO
or AR, but a few suggestions are Blue Springs Creek, Little Piney
Creek, Capps Creek, and Crane Creek. The Eleven Point is fine and so
are parts of the Current and Meramec.

I have much in common with your background...I was born in CO, raised
in Alaska, and now reside in MO as my wife is from this area. Between
the time we left Alaska and moved to Missouri, we spent 6 years just
west of Steamboat Springs.

We won't find western stream fly fishing around here, but we can still
come pretty close. I have some basic info on these places I mentioned
and some others at http://family-outdoors.com/Missouri_Trout_Fishing.html