On Nov 2, 4:46*pm, angler wrote:
On 2 Nov, 22:38, DaveS wrote:





On Nov 2, 11:23*am, angler wrote:

On 31 Okt, 16:31, Jarmo Hurri wrote:

Greetings!

Next year is a special occasion
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Jarmo Hurri

It feels a loooong time since I last posted on ROFF, but now I find it
hard to resist.
I can't spend as much time travelling around north America as Jarmo
and his friends, and I already have some fishing trips for 2010
planned (Jarmo mentioned one in Sweden), but I think it is about time
I did try out the fishing in the western part of the US. I've already
mentioned this to a couple of friends on another forum (Vaughan Hurry
among them), and it met with some interest.
What I would like is the opportunity to meet some of the guys present
when I visited the Penns clave and/or some of the people on this
forum, so here's a question from me: Wasn't there a western clave at
some point? What happened to it, or does it still occur?
Anyway, even if there isn't a western clave any longer, I would still
hope to do some fishing with people I've talked to/discussed with
rather than me and my friends trying the area out on our own. So what
are the chances of meeting up with some of you guys to do some
fishing?

/Roger Ohlund

I think your chances are near certainty. Come on over.

BTW looked at your profile quote from Hill the railroad baron. I think
the "swedes" he was talking about is the archaic US word for a type of
root vegetable, usually a type of turnip, but sometimes meaning a
sweet potato variety and sometimes a kind of livestock food. It wasn't
meant offensively. A mash of potato and "swede" was a common working
class staple for the pioneering Irish track laying crews that pushed
J'P' Hill's Northern Pacific RR across the plains to the ocean.

I think Hill was saying that given tobacco, booze and turnips, he
could build a railroad to hell. I would have added soy sauce for the
Chinese dynamite crews, but having walked Hill's roadbed thru some of
the Cascade mountains, I don't think he was making an empty boast.

Dave

Maybe I was fooled by the "Swedes" with a capital S, or it could have
something to do with the following:

"President Lincoln's Homestead Act of 1862, the political
stabilization after 1865, and the enormously expanding industries of
the North represented three important drawing factors on Swedish
emigration to the U.S. The generous offer of the Homestead Act became
a powerful magnet on land-hungry farm people. This also destined them
to the so-called Homestead Triangle, especially to Minnesota, which
became the Swede State of America. This was in accordance with the
politics of Minnesota, where in 1867 a state immigration office was
established. The Swedish Civil War colonel Hans Mattson became its
first director. The result of the Swedish land-hunger was that the
area of Swedish-owned farmland in America of 1920 corresponded to 2/3
of all arable land in Sweden. In some counties, such as Chicago,
Isanti and Kanabec in Minnesota, the land became almost totally owned
by Swedes. A string of Swedish settlements also grew up around the new
railroads. The possibility of combining farmwork with jobs for the
railroad or a lumber company was important for the penniless Swedes.
Most of the unmarried men worked as lumberjacks or on the railroads.
The railroad king James Hill is quoted: "Give me snuff, whiskey and
Swedes, and I will build a railroad to hell." "

/Roger-

Hm.....seems clear enough to me.

g.
who, though perhaps not the best of readers, has never experienced
much trouble in distinguishing between a turnip and a teuton.