On Dec 18, 2:36*pm, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
"DaveS" wrote in message

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But the most insulting disregard of the American people in this whole
health care debate was for the GOP to knowingly pretend that Obama's
attack on medicare fraud, particularly in Florida and Texas, was a
"cut in health care for the elderly."

wait a minute......as a Democrat(entire adult life, ward leader, etc), and
as a supporter of Obama, IMHO, they set themselves up for that. Why? Because
it was presented in an extremely poor fashion. To the VAST majority of the
public, all that was laid out was that they were going to 'reduce' Medicare
costs. Nothing about efficiency or fraud crackdowns, just 'reduce costs'. To
most elderly people(scientific sample: two parents and and Aunt, all in
their 90's, two of whom voted for Obama), this brought on a serious case of
the heebie-jeebies.

True but. . . you argue like when a thief blames the victim, because
they were vulnerable. OK thats a stretch but not much. Who knew just
how low the Post-defeated GOP was willing to go to score a one match
point. IMHO They apparently hate the American working people.

Like I said, until it can be sold(and damn, it shouldn't be that hard a
sell) to the majority of the voting public that Health care should be a
public service, not a for-profit industry, and until the American public can
learn to value different levels of care and show the willingness to manage
their own costs responsibly, we are never going to be able to reform an
out-of-control system that costs WAY too much, per capita.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Tom

Well that's one idea of the necessary precursors. I am some more of an
existentialist on the subject: we shall see. Politics/National policy
continue to surprise me, just as an appreciation of the planets
oneness is setting in. ;+")
Dave