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Old January 6th, 2010, 04:44 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
MajorOz
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Default "No surprise that life's road can feel different . . . in crappyshoes

On Jan 5, 4:21*pm, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
"David LaCourse" wrote in message

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the only answer you have is

to turn away and ignore them?


no, I'm saying generation to generation poverty has been part of our economy
since this nation started. Nothing 'pathetic' about it, it's built into the
system. It's good that you do something to help. I try to do likewise.

*Shame on you. *I call them pathetic

meaning sad, not *your* usual meaning of the word contemptuous pity. There
are five food banks/pantries available to them once a month. *They visit
all of them and get enough food for an entire month. *That is sad. *A five
year limit on welfare? *There is no limit on how long these sad souls can
live in subsidized housing or visit the food pantries.


no. And, while you might backpedal now and parse your use of pathetic, you
are all too willing to guess about their politics/voting(as if you really
know) and pass judgement elsewhere.

We have literally lost three generations of peope because they rely on
government entitlements.


this is where you let politics get in the way of clear thinking. We've had
poverty, generation-to-generation poverty, and you apparently only started
noticing it in the past 20 years. Hell, the same families that were poor in
VA in 1800 still are today. Sure, there are a few that break the cycle, but
the system is set up to make that a challenge.


Well........DUH..........LIFE is a challenge.

One of the greatest crocks o'
crap ever sold is the Horatio Alger ideal.


Almost all those achievers I know came from loooowwwww beginnings.
They did so by working hard and recognizing what is important and what
is not.

By and large, our nation just
doesn't work that way. Perhaps, in Obama, they felt they
saw someone who might effect a change in that. In my experiences, most of
the folks who I've encountered receiving welfare, food stamps, going to the
food bank, etc., don't like that situation, and work like the devil to
change it.


Then they chose the wrong devil. Working hard doesn't help. You must
work smart.
Working hard to make a great mud pie gives you a..........mud pie.


Sometimes, they get discouraged, but by and large, it is not some
sort of lifestyle choice.


With few exceptions (physical impairment, etc.) is IS a choice.

cheers

oz, who makes choices