On Jan 6, 9:33*am, MajorOz wrote:

Oz. I am just using your post to respond because its the last. This
post is to all the above.

We can continue this stuff endlessly. Who is to blame society/economy
versus the individual. Fact is its both as far as my personal beliefs/
experience etc.. But that is irrelevant when it comes to helping a
FAMILY member , or a really close friend out of the muck. We on ROFF
can (and will ) go on contrasting our personal beliefs in a
superiority dance cleverly demonstrating "truths" WITHOUT ever DOING
anything long enuf or intensively enuf to effect a change in the lives
of people we care about who ----------------------- (choose one or
mo a. have made bad choices, b. are victims of the recession, c.
voted for the antichrist, d. are pawns in the capitalist game).

Like I said before ... I doubt there is any man here, no matter where
he starts on your or my "scale of proper compassion," who ... could
not do more and start with a down and out family member or close
friend. That's the real choice for most of us.

Dave