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Old January 22nd, 2010, 09:08 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Mark Bowen
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Default Thank you, Mr. O.


"Larry L" wrote in message
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On Jan 21, 6:41 pm, David LaCourse wrote:

: "From each according to his ability, to each
according to his need ." *That's* what most of these liberal,
progressive mutton heads believe and *want*. But, it doesn't work,
does it? Try telling them that.



The IDEOLOGY of communism has been PROVEN to fail and fail badly in
the real world, as a tool to better the conditions of society as a
whole and promote social stability

The IDEOLOGY of unregulated free market capitalism has been PROVEN to
fail and fail badly in the real world, as a tool to better the
conditions of society as a whole and promote social stability ( ask
even Greenspan, who flat admitted that the ideology was flawed .. try
telling YOU that :-)

Capitalism and Communism are economic systems, NOT governmental ones,
although we all tend to lose sight of that often.

Government is a needed thing in human society. Good government is
ALWAYS at risk from the forces of economic systems.

Unchecked and unregulated, any economic system WILL undermine the
desirable effects of government. In this country, Capitalism has,
is and will cause the near downfall, at times, of our society, by
undermining the restraints on 'free enterprise' needed to protect
against too much concentration of wealth and power.


One of the things that strikes me as very odd about our culture is
that, often, the very individuals that most fear "big brother"
government willingly open their arms to the very real potential of
"big brother" corporate and wealthy individual power. Concentrate
all the money ( and resulting power ) in too few hands and YOU will
become a slave.

A slave is a slave, regardless of who his owner is .... we are at real
risk of becoming slaves to "business" as democracy is downgraded and
undermined by capitalism.


OF course, I think capitalism has worked better, thus far, than
communism, in real world tests .... but, largely because it has been
regulated and restrained by democracy's goal of serving and protecting
all of the people ...anti-trust laws, environmental protection laws,
worker protections, etc etc. For instance, without government
regulations on business, your search for trout still living in clean
water would most certainly be much more difficult, and your life
therefore much sadder.

One thing I simply can't understand is why people would vote for
individuals that openly state that they want to undermine government,
as a whole. To me this is like being on the board of directors of
a large business, interviewing applicants for key management
positions, and then choosing the ones that say," I don't believe in
this business and will do all I can to wreck it."

There is most certainly room for serious debate on the subject of what
the roles of government should be, but I'm looking for applicants that
will try to make it work better at those roles, not worse. Limiting
those roles to ones achievable and needed is, obviously, part of that
process towards improvement.

Anyone that honestly believes that "no government" is the best
government, needs to research conditions in the many places where "no
government" is a near reality.


Oh, one last thing ... jumping to the conclusion that anyone the
doesn't think just like me is a "mutton head" is, also, a way to
become enslaved. Consider the historic fates of nearly everyone
that has embraced an ideology at the cost of real thought and
conversation.


well stated,immho

Op